The Day of Thunder

The Dream of Jigoku wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:27 pm

I will happily accept all who wish to receive my gifts.

We'll talk for next game.

Oh no, GB got got :'( long live GB!

Chuchu wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:47 pm

Oh no, GB got got :'( long live GB!

Oh, I've got *several* ideas for Dawn 5.

They get worse if the Thunders lose.

The Dream of Jigoku wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:27 pm

I will happily accept all who wish to receive my gifts.

Hantei Genji wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 19, 2023 6:45 am

Okay, that hurt. Tyrus, why are you beign so mean to meeeeee?!

Look, he just wants the kill he earned in the graveyard fight!

He does seem to have it in for Genji.

All those explosions on damage.

You can roll on Sakkaku or Random.org to pick the die, whatever works for you.

I see people are as trustful of Sakkaku as ever. I don't have it in me to decipher if it's pure superstition, people being worried the rolls are loaded either because of incompetence or malice, or the interface which is simply that bad. Just can't wait for it to be someone else's problem.

Just superstition and jokes. Same as we mistrusted Orokos, same as we mistrusted IC, same as we would mistrust any other RNG generator in the future.

No actual issue with Sakkaku itself.

I curse at my own physical dice when they give me the numbers they did on my Warhammer game on Thursday...

I mean, it's not like Random.org can do anything that is needed for trackable roleplay. Far as I'm aware.

Can't see it as a dig, considering Random.org is just not a useable tool for our joint purpose in having fair and honest roleplay.

Edit: I suppose dig might give a different vibe, but I don't think it's a show of a lack of trust in the slightest.

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Doesn't it make it even weirder then? Like saying "you can roll a physical die on your physical table to determine that"?

There are horror stories of previous games where players went mad at GM for loading the dice when they had no ability to do so, with insane theories about random number generation worked. It was of course never about the dice, simply about some player having reached a high enough level of stress they just needed something, anything, to get mad of.

tl;dr I'm now worried for whoever asked the GM for the permission to roll on Random.org, as well as for the GM who have to deal with them in such a state

Sugri wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:17 am

Just superstition and jokes. Same as we mistrusted Orokos, same as we mistrusted IC, same as we would mistrust any other RNG generator in the future.

No actual issue with Sakkaku itself.

very much this.

All are better than IC though. It is known.

Kaijarisuigyo wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:36 am

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Doesn't it make it even weirder then? Like saying "you can roll a physical die on your physical table to determine that"?

There are horror stories of previous games where players went mad at GM for loading the dice when they had no ability to do so, with insane theories about random number generation worked. It was of course never about the dice, simply about some player having reached a high enough level of stress they just needed something, anything, to get mad of.

tl;dr I'm now worried for whoever asked the GM for the permission to roll on Random.org, as well as for the GM who have to deal with them in such a state

Kind of.

I suspect it was under the idea of, "Oh, I rolled 9 dice but can't roll a nine sided die on Sakkaku so I'll use Random.org to choose between 1-9"

But ultimately that's not verifiable if we wanted it to be, so it's more or less just as likely for anyone to simply choose what dice to drop or what have you.

Ultimately, it depends on how much it matters to everyone.

At the point that people are assuming "Raise the Ring by 1" means they take their Agility 4 to 5 when raising their Fire from 3 to 4 without asking a GM, I don't think we are in the realm of trust, respect, or caring.

Kaijarisuigyo wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:57 am

You can roll on Sakkaku or Random.org to pick the die, whatever works for you.

I see people are as trustful of Sakkaku as ever. I don't have it in me to decipher if it's pure superstition, people being worried the rolls are loaded either because of incompetence or malice, or the interface which is simply that bad. Just can't wait for it to be someone else's problem.

My IRL group is suspicious of our GM's favorite d20. Even though it's rolled pretty average from what I have noticed.

It's just that old human instinct to try and impose some meaning and a pattern to pure chance/chaos.

Yumi wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:00 am

I suspect it was under the idea of, "Oh, I rolled 9 dice but can't roll a nine sided die on Sakkaku so I'll use Random.org to choose between 1-9"

I don't think it's the issue there: If someone did pretend they couldn't get a 1-9 value from a d10, I think a one day ban would have to be enforced, as the most charitable explanation would be they really needed a break from the game.

However, for anyone's information, you can very much roll 1d9, or any sort of XdY, just by changing the roller type:



Yeah, I know, interface is not great. Site in dire need of an actual designer.

Yumi wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:03 am

At the point that people are assuming "Raise the Ring by 1" means they take their Agility 4 to 5 when raising their Fire from 3 to 4 without asking a GM, I don't think we are in the realm of trust, respect, or caring.

Likely, most people here acted based on imitating how the players before them had interpreted the rules. I myself was guilty of this "well, if everyone is using it as a portable +1k1, must be how it works" syndrome.

And determining whether the first link of the chain was genuine in their mistake or not... Not worth it. What's done is done.

Depends on who you are. Having the respect of your players I think very much matter to any GM. Difference between those who make a habit of asking for permission, and those making a habit of asking for forgiveness.

Not my game, not my witch hunt. But something for folk to consider why they did the things they did, and if they maybe didn't do right by somebody.

Canary wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:11 am

Togashi Satsuki wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 19, 2023 3:14 am

Canary wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 19, 2023 2:59 am

Apparently I did charge for marriage before. It's a minor goal.

What about those of us who got hitched in-game? ^^;

You got hitched in game. Seems like the time for having to maneuver for that has passed, yeah? XD Though don't be surprised if getting hitched in game doesn't get some, "And you didn't wait to consult us because...?" reactions.

Uuugh, I'm an adult now! I do as I want!

Togashi Satsuki wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 19, 2023 3:17 pm

Uuugh, I'm an adult now! I do as I want!

*runs away with Satsuki and a magnificent horse*